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Many people ask themselves (sometimes on a daily basis) why they should comment on a piece of work. Whether it's just a deviation that pops up into our message centres or a deviation on deviantART's home page, what makes us decide whether we should, or even want to, comment on that piece?

Why do we bother? Or more importantly, why don’t we bother?

This guide explores the thoughts that we may have, the excuses we make, and, hopefully, a few thoughts to encourage you to comment, not just with a few words and that's it, but to really give a fellow artist a constructive comment that they deserve... that we deserve.

What is mentioned below is by no means accurate or complete and it does not apply to everyone. It was written by ProjectComment as a Group, by deviants, for deviants and we sincerely hope you enjoy reading this.

A massive thank you to annajordanart, catadescour, katdesignstudio, Jenniej92 and xblackxbloodxcellx who all contributed in the making of this guide. Their efforts are much appreciated and they really deserve more recognition.


Many of us do not have the time to constructively comment on deviations, even though we want to. As a consequence, we :+fav: and run, we write a couple of words, or something else that takes less than a minute to do.

Is that it? Are our pieces reduced to only something that is worthy of one minute of a person's time?

How many of us browse the galleries, on deviantART, clicking on random deviations? How many of us see so many deviations that have next to no comments, or comments that only contain a few words?

One could argue that it is their own fault for not being more active and supporting other artists. Surely if they were more active, they would receive more comments, and that... that is true to some extent. Regardless, it should never stop us from commenting and giving people feedback on their pieces. The majority of us are artists, striving for the same goal, so why not help someone in the same position as you… as us?

If you don't have time to comment, that's fair enough, but for those that have the time, why not?

Reasons Why

"Commenting on other people's work is a great way to expand your own knowledge of different variations of art. It's also a key factor to an art community - conversing and interacting with other artists creates the 'studio environment' that many artists work to in their jobs.

Commenting also shows a bit of your personality, or even that you are an open person. If you leave comments on people's work they are more than likely to leave comments back - its like an ice breaker." ~ annajordanart

"Commenting helps you not only to give your opinion or viewpoint, it also lets you receive feedback on whether you understood a piece of art correctly. Moreover, you can learn from other cultures and become more open-minded." ~ catadescour

"There is always a point to sharing your thoughts on a piece, even if only to exercise your observational skills. DeviantArt is a community site and you should feel comfortable giving feedback." ~ katdesignstudio

Fear is a factor that prevents some of us from commenting when it shouldn't: "I think most people are a bit afraid to give a deep comment, or just don't know what to say, or are afraid the receiver will be mad." ~ Jenniej92

Have you asked yourself, "What is the worst that could happen?"

You might get flamed/trolled/etc., but you are not forced to reply and you are not forced to see or read the comment. If the comment bothers you, delete it, never look back and move on. Your self-esteem/confidence/ego may plummet a bit from the encounter, but you have only conversed with one artist. Not all artists are the same and there are many out there who would appreciate any feedback at all, which leads us to...


...the excuses we make.

My comment won't make a difference and won't do much, anyway, because there are already loads of comments and it's quite obvious the artist doesn't need their ego stoked any more. Thus, any comments made means nothing, and there is no point.

Although there could be many comments, really look at them and see how many just contain a few sentences. Are all of the comments constructive? If not, your comment still has a chance of impacting the artist, especially if your comment is in-depth. If your thoughts are parallel to those that are already said, then there really is no point in reiterating it, but many artists still like to receive feedback, no matter how many comments they have.

"Even if you point some "weak spots" out, but you're kind, the artist will surely make use of your comment and will appreciate your honesty." ~ xblackxbloodxcellx

Generally, though, "Artists appreciate and thrive on any and all feedback on a piece. It is doubtful that the artist would leave the comments option "on" if they didn’t seek feedback. " ~ katdesignstudio

katdesignstudio goes on to say, "Pretend the artist and the "already knows their piece is amazing" feeling doesn’t exist. Just look at the piece for what it is. This is kind of a reverse Zen technique where instead of being acutely aware or oversensitive at the loads of comments, we are only looking at the art piece for what it is. Then write the comment, look at it objectively to ensure it is balanced for critical and constructive criticism, and post it."

The deviation is not inspiring, does not interest people, people cannot connect, etc.

If you find a piece such as this, what more of a better reason than to comment? You can suggest improvements to be made, give general feedback or anything else to help them progress as an artist. The critique template with sections such as, 'Vision', 'Originality', 'Technique' and 'Impact' can greatly aid in the making of this comment.

"Art is individually experienced and should not immediately be dismissed as 'uninspiring'. While there may be design reasons for it to not be emotionally compelling, just look at the piece objectively." ~ katdesignstudio

The medium of the piece is unfamiliar and I don't know what to say, because I am out of my comfort zone and depth.

You don't have to have specific knowledge of the medium to convey what you feel, think and see. Some artists are fine with just having feedback, any sort of feedback. Our guide How to Comment - Pointers and Examples lists all the things you could mention (General Pointers for All Categories) that can apply to every art out there.

"If you’re really stumped, at least write about what you feel from seeing the art. All art evokes a feeling – all humans experience art at very least on an emotive level." ~ katdesignstudio

I can’t actually think of anything constructive so no comment is better than a non-constructive comment.

xblackxbloodxcellx has pretty much summed it up brilliantly:

"Take a deep breath and look at the piece again. Name three (or more) things you like most and try to think why you like them. Write them down. Then try to look for a couple of things you don't really fancy and again, think why they don't attract you this much. Write them down. And you've got a decent comment!"

Some people believe that if they have nothing worthy to say, then they shouldn't say it. This does not apply to everyone. Although you may feel like that yourself, try and empathise with the artist and think how they will feel. You may be pleasantly surprised that people may want a non-constructive comment.

If a comment is made, it makes me sound like a douche, people bite my head off, it’s not appreciated, people will call me names, etc.

If your comment is not disrespectful, rude or 'flame-worthy' matieral, then the majority of people will only be like that if a, they are trolls (in which case, stay away from them or if that is too late, delete the reply and move on), b, the comment you type is destructive (particularly focusing on tone, content and phrasing) or c, it's neither the above, in which case, it's best not to pay attention and take what they say to heart.

"Besides, there's a saying in my country, "nunca quedas mal con nadie", which refers to those people who avoid saying anything because they don't want to get in trouble with anybody." ~ catadescour

Is that what everybody should do every single time they get a negative reply? Should we skulk around in silence, scared that the same things will happen again?

NO! Take a stand, respect the artist for the path they have chosen (even if they don't respect you), and keep on believing that not everyone is the same. Try and comment on 10 random pieces and see if the replies you get are all negative. If you get one negative out of nine positive, doesn't that prove something?

"If you're kind writing the comment, it's highly predictable that the artist will be at least as kind as you were." ~ xblackxbloodxcellx

When the artist doesn’t reply to the comments, it could suggest that they don’t appreciate it, can’t be bothered etc.

The majority of artists have a reason for not replying to comments, don't take it personally. It doesn't mean that they don't appreciate every single one, though, and it doesn't mean they won't be read. Sometimes, time can be a major factor, as our lives outside dA are more important, the artist wants to save the comments in their message centre because they feel the comments are helpful, or they just don't want to reply and thank everyone generically.

The comment won't be read

That really is not possible unless the artist just deletes your comment from their message centre without even looking, and if they do that, why enable comments in the first place? The fact that a comment won't be read and that a comment won't be replied to are two separate things.

"It’s also really tough to tell another person’s message reading habits if you are not the other person. Just have confidence! If you’ve left a comment, your objective at giving constructive feedback has been fulfilled, and you should be proud that you have participated in a group effort to make DeviantArt a more enriching place." ~ katdesignstudio

The fact that all there is in the Artist’s Comments is '…'

Some people feel that they shouldn't need to explain their piece, that it is all there up for your interpretation. Some people speak a different language and cannot portray what they want. Some people are in a hurry, or just don't want to distort your perception in any way so that you give your genuine impression.

Either way, it shouldn't deter you. It doesn't necessarily mean that you won't receive a reply. If a piece is beautiful and has "..." in the Artist's Comments, would it put you off from commenting more than a piece that is not quite so beautiful? Regardless of their skill, pieces shouldn't be judged in a way that one piece receives a comment over another that doesn't.

I comment, comment and comment, but I receive nothing. What’s the point? Why should I bother?

Selflessness, and the want to spread the love, to inspire  other people to comment. It sucks when you do so much for other people and yet you receive nothing in return, but... look deeper. Do the people thank you for what you have done? Do they hug and smile at you? If yes, then that is its own reward.

Not only that, but keep hold on to the belief that what goes around, comes around.

Continue to be active, support other artists for just the support and the act of giving, and it will be reciprocated sooner or later.

Final Note

Hopefully this guide has given you a few things to think about. There are a lot of deviations out there with barely any comments, and deviantART is such a massive place, surely we should help as much as we can?

The most important thing to think about is to comment because you want to comment, to spread the love, to inspire others to do the same, or anything else that is selfless, not selfish. Set yourself a target to constructively comment on one deviation every day, or to comment on a deviation that has no comments at all.  

Most of all, though, comment for art's sake. :heart:

Guides by ProjectComment

:bulletblue: A Guide to Commenting
:bulletblue: 5 Tips to Maintaining and Gaining Watchers
:bulletblue: An Observation of deviantART
:bulletblue: How to Comment - Pointers and Examples
:bulletblue: How to Write an Artist's (or Author's) Comments
:bulletblue: A Guide on (Offending) Comments

An extraordinary group you should check out…

Project-Pay-Forward ~ :iconproject-pay-forward:

"We all know of deviants who need help from time to time. Sometimes it is in a monetary fashion - Like donations for causes, paying for a bill here and there or something else.

Other times it is a simple hug, a friendly hello, a newbie who needs a guide or the promoting of an event.
And who doesn't know of someone offering or looking for commissions?
Need advice on your work? A critique perhaps?

This is what Project-Pay-Forward aims to do: Help those in need, however possible. We all have our talents, and we all have things we would like help with. This project hopes to bring together the two and get things done."

Thank you for reading. :dalove:

3wyl, posting on behalf of ProjectComment
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Xender1500 Featured By Owner Edited Jun 16, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
This is a good article. Not only is it informative, but also self demonstrating.

Since you mentioned bold and italics I'll link to the DeviantArt FAQS HTML article which shows how to do it. It also contains more formatting (HTML) tools
3wyl Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, indeed. :nod:
TheDeviantArtist07v Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2016  Professional General Artist
I once commented on a piece of vent art, giving it critique, not knowing that the artwork was vent art. The artist gave a very vague description on their deviation, so I assumed that it was just another regular deviation. When I gave my critique, the artists watchers along with the artist grew hostile with me and they told me that they didn't want criticism and my critique was really rude.  This is why I don't comment very often, or not at all sometimes. 
3wyl Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
That sucks. =/

It's difficult to tell the intentions of people online. Some of them post art only to vent, or only to share, so they don't want any criticisms. Meanwhile, there are so many other artists who post artwork with the intention to get feedback and improve.

With that said, I think it's a shame if it affects another person's commenting. I understand why you wouldn't want to comment often. At the same time, I believe a key to this is finding a place that offers a safe environment to give and get constructive comments. One such place is ProjectComment. Everyone who submits to our gallery wants feedback, and if anyone is acting hostile, the group can step in and act on that as a mediator. :nod:
Geminice Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2016
As far as I'm concerned commenting on artwork is the easiest and one of the most honest ways to show that you care about the artwork in the first place. I never just stick something in my favorites without at least throwing a simple comment. Even if it's something as simple as "nice job" or "good work on this"

It shows that you really care about the artwork.
3wyl Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, it doesn't take long to express ourselves in words, though it may be a daunting task to many. :nod:

If only more people thought that way!
Animalme Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I always try to comment, especially on pieces with no comments at all. The only time I don't comment is when I have no time (in which case I favorite and try to come back later), or I just can't think of a single thing to say.
3wyl Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Time has a lot to do with things when it comes to commenting. :nod:

That makes sense! :nod:
Animalme Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, it does!
Tevo77777 Featured By Owner May 23, 2016  Student Writer
Something I think about is that I am in a lot of groups to get my art out there and I go through the art no matter how much it piles up, because that's what you do.

I make art about guns and many other things, so obviously seeing some guns I can look at it is my thing.

But something I have been thinking about is that my comment to favorite ratio has been dropping.

You are right. I'm out of school, I'm avoiding bad people as best as I can; and what better to do with my time then to make art and comment more.

Good work.
3wyl Featured By Owner May 23, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I think a great group member is one that goes through the art in a group, but it definitely depends on the group. If you are active in the group overall, that's the main thing.

I personally don't watch a lot of groups or artists on DeviantArt because I know I won't be able to be the best 'watcher' to the group or the artist. Many others don't feel that way, though.

Overall, it is up to you whether you comment more or fav more. It's up to you to make peace with whatever you choose. Neither option is 'wrong' or 'right'.
Tevo77777 Featured By Owner May 23, 2016  Student Writer
I talked to pretty much everyone in the Journal for the group!

3wyl Featured By Owner May 28, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I saw! It's pretty intense. :faint:
XStutzX Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016  Student Digital Artist
So well written.
I agree wholeheartedly! I try to comment as much as I can (mainly because I know how I not having comments feels as an artist), it drains you a little, but it has to be done. Makes me feel good at the end of the day and makes the artists fond of the activity in their deviations.
3wyl Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, I think those that do comment understand what it is like not to receive them, so...they pass the kindness on, sometimes for the hope that someone will do them the same kindness. :)

I am glad! Thank you so much for commenting! :hug:
PokeBallZtheSeries Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
This was well written. As a writer, comments really help propel my writing forward and let me know whether or not the story is going in the right direction. With the lack of feedback, negative or positive, it can be easy for me to derail myself and go in the wrong direction with the story. My editor isn't a Pokemon fan, thus she only edits the grammar and every once in a while, adds a comment about the story. 

While I don't comment often myself, it's mostly because I am on my cellphone when I'm online and I suck at texting. I often have 50+ notifications in my inbox and it is hard to comment on every single one of them. I do comment on people I follow and my commissioners on their artwork, because why wouldn't I? Though, for other people's literature, I often don't have the time when writing my own fiction while keeping to a weekly schedule, juggling between that and a 50+ hour job. I am open for critique trades, those I WILL put time aside to do.
3wyl Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I am glad you think so! :D

Comments, when done correctly, can help both the artist and the commenter. While editors that focus on technicalities (grammar, spelling, etc.) can be useful, there should be other opinions about the content, etc.

Yeah, I hate texting on my phone too. I much prefer the keyboard with my desktop. :P

That's understandable. Just because literature is written, and not visual, I find that people find it difficult to give comments. THey want comments (who doesn't), but they can't give them. There could be many reasons, but it's still a problem. It creates an imbalance between those wanting critique, and those giving critique. :nod:
PokeBallZtheSeries Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
It certainly does. I wish I had the time to write critiques for those who want them on their art. I'm thinking about doing a critique trade on my own page to help with that.
3wyl Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
That would definitely work! I realise that many of us don't have the time, but doing anything, even if it's small, can be a great help. :nod:
PokeBallZtheSeries Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Awesome~ I may make a journal entry about it later today.
3wyl Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
That would be cool!
ToddNTheShiningSword Featured By Owner Edited Oct 10, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:thumbsdown:I've just met three of the meanest deviants I've ever met all in one day by following the advice in these Journals.
It's a safe assumption that most people will not want a constructive comment from a stranger, even if they don't give you a negative reply. Those that do will explicitly say they do.

And the "sandwich method" is in the Guide On Offending Comments for a reason. That sandwich is a recipe for disaster.

I'll switch back to leaving less Comments and making them all one-liners. Much safer that way. I'll save all the good ones for here.
3wyl Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
This journal was posted in 2010, so I'm not sure how relevant it is in 2015.

I agree that it would be safer to assume that those who do not specifically state they want a constructive comment should probably not be given one. However, even if a person does say they want a constructive comment, their definition of a constructive comment and your definition may be vastly different. They may still take offence even if you think your comment shouldn't have caused any.

I think it is a shame to switch back to leaving fewer comments and making them all one-liners just because you ran into a few people that didn't appreciate the alternative. It may be safer that way, but the internet is full of mean people, full of trolls, full of worse things besides. There will always be a mean person out there, both offline and online. The key point is what you do after the ordeal. You could let the mean people affect you, to the detriment of others and the community overall, or you could ignore the mean people, to the benefit of others and the community overall. Surely those you have helped with a constructive comment vastly outweigh those that are mean.

You could live life as safe as you can possibly make it, but nothing can guarantee safety 100% forever. Even if you drive as safely as you can, other people may not be the same. There's the possibility they will drive into you, and you won't be safe any more.
ToddNTheShiningSword Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The analogy at the end isn't a good analogy, because that primarily describes situations that are hard to distance yourself from. Not leaving detailed comments on people's work is very easy to walk away from and never deal with, because you have to go out of your way, and spend much more time and effort than most people are willing to, in order to do that. You could easily decide never to leave detailed comments anywhere and then it would never effect you. If you decide never to post anything on the internet, then you will literally never have to deal with any other people's actions regarding your postings. That's not like with drivers where you still have to worry about them no matter how you do or don't drive, yourself.

Unless I'm commenting on the Project Comment Group, I don't actually get anything for leaving detailed comments. The people I'm giving them to might get something, but I don't, so even if I only get a few negative replies, it means I actually get nothing but grief. :no:
...I guess that's not quite how it is, since I also get conversation and the benefits of talking to other artists, but I could get that stuff almost as easily without actually leaving comments on anyone's art. I could just comment on YouTube or a forum or something somewhere else where getting wild negative responses to a detailed message is more common, more predictable and less painful, and I can still learn.

I'm confident this Journal is still perfectly relevant.

I've actually been giving out a lot less comments since then, and they're much shorter than they were before. I've even started giving out a few one-liners- something I never did before. Unless I'm someplace like on Project Comment or someplace where I get something from commenting that mitigates the risk of getting a negative reply, I don't feel like doing it is worth the risk... and while the good experiences were forgettable thank yous, the bad experiences, I won't soon forget. Won't forget a single one.
3wyl Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
You raise a fair point there, but it depends on your perspective regarding how to interpret such an analogy. Even if you don't comment, others may comment on your works and still treat you meanly. They may actively stalk your page, your journals and your comments and rip you apart in all three of those places - whether you asked for comments or not. If you comment constructively on a piece from an artist that wants comments, that artist's friend may reply back to you and treat you meanly.

Never posting anything on the internet isn't an option for many of us, in the same way that not being able to drive would severely limit us (in certain places).

Perhaps you haven't experienced it, but I have been attacked from utter strangers who decided to jump into a conversation they weren't a part of. It's the nature of commenting and public spaces.

That's understandable. It does make sense to comment on pieces from artists that have specifically requested constructive comments. What you get in return is down to you. We all comment for different reasons. There are many ways to get into conversations and make friends, such as chats, forums, etc., but commenting on art is one of the main ways.

I can assure you, after making over 300,000 forum posts, you will get wild negative responses in the forums, and you will get plenty of attacks on youtube as well. No place on the internet is without mean people, trolls or worse. Even if you're not looking for it, if you're not commenting meanly, a random person may attack you regardless.

For everyone, it's a weighing up of pros and cons. I understand that. However, keeping the bad experiences so that they hinder you means they've won. They've gotten to you. The main thing for me is knowing the bad experiences happen, and yes, even remembering it, but it's also about moving on and showing the mean people that they haven't done anything with lasting impact, that their effect is not powerful. It's showing them that them, their actions and more are not worthy to be remembered or acknowledged because they're random strangers that don't mean anything at the end of the day. They're not friends, they're not family. They're nobody worth remembering about. They don't deserve to change a core aspect of myself, to change something I fully believe in. They don't deserve to have power over me, over what I do or don't do. Only I have the power over myself and my actions.
ToddNTheShiningSword Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
To reply to the last part first, I do't really see it that way either. Just because someone said something mean to me, does't make them much less of a person. I don't know them, don't know what bothers them, and don't know what they've been through. In their eyes, I am the bad guy looking as bad to them as they do to me. And that's part of what makes it so pointless. My attempt was to be the good guy and I became the villain instead.
It's like when you have to fish at the store that just can't go in the same tank. It's not that either one is bad, per se, but if you put them in the same tank, someone's going to die. To me, it's about ME, not them, and thinking lower of them isn't as important as... Just see it as we're two people who do't mix together, and I made the mistake of talking to someone with which I wasn't compatible, and that's all there was to it, and there's no way I could have known beforehand, really. Except I did kick myself because I've commented on art where I saw a bunch of hidden Comments. :ohmygod: That's a telltale sign of a hostile artist. :facepalm: Me and my big mouth. But I don't blame others. Unless someone's just mean, which they very well could be, it's not their fault for being as they are. It's my fault for provoking them. It's not about winning anything, for me.

Those are all good points that I mostly hadn't thought much about, but it's different from real life in that I honestly don't have to leave comments of substance on strangers' art, period. That's something I have to go out of my way to do, and if I don't do that, I'll be little worse for it. I'll be just like most people are most of the time, leaving simple comments, or none at all. I won't be missing anything if I don't leave them.
You're totally right in way I should have thought more about that someone can just jump into a conversation they weren't in in real life (that's happened to me before :X ), and someone can leave mean comments on my art, but that's still different because verbal communication and posting art mean much to much to stop doing. Leaving good comments is quite easy to stop doing, and doesn't take anything from me if I do. 
I can still leave comments just like that while living under a rule that those comments are not for strangers. I could reserve all good comments for the art of people on Project Comment, or people I already know, and that mitigates risk. I could still theoretically get bad results through Project Comment, but it's unlikely, and even if it does happen, I get quality feedback as a reward for giving it, and even if that feedback's negative, and even if someone were to just dump hate on me, it would be worth it for the stuff I can learn to improve. I could still get bad results from someone I know, but that's not likely either, and there's something you get from doing stuff with people you know (even if you don't know them all that well) that you don't get from strangers, you know? We're social creatures, after all.
And if one of their friends doesn't like one of my comments I would just tell them the artist DID, so it's fine. That's what I did before.

I DO secretly wonder what would happen if someone would just get some vendetta against me and stalk me all over the internet to bring me pain and hacked-ness everywhere I go. If someone "swatted" me, I'd be scared. :fear: But THAT, IS  a risk you have to take to live... but it would change how I live if that'd happened!

But in short, ( tl;dr ) more Comments for friends and associates, less for strangers. If we already know each other, they get comments. If I just discovered them through their art I just discovered, probably not.
WOW LONG REPLY :iconwalloftextplz:
3wyl Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know. It can be complicated. If you were not mean yourself in any way, and your comment conveys good and helpful intentions, but they turn around and be mean to you, there's something wrong there. There are a good, few people that would not be mean. It is true that you don't know them and vice versa, but that doesn't mean they have free reign to treat others badly. In their eyes, you may not be the bad guy. They may just want to attack you for the fun of it. We don't know, either way. For me, if most of the universe agrees that what you did was a 'good guy' thing, over a 'villain' thing, then that doesn't make you a villain.

In my view, I don't quite understand why it would be 'ME' and 'not them' if we haven't done something wrong. I don't think leaving a constructive comment on a piece posted on public domain is wrong, especially if they didn't say 'No constructive comments'. If they made no indication, how do (or would) we know? Having said that, as I said before, it makes sense not to give a constructive comment on a stranger's art if they don't specifically request it. It's complicated in that sense. :hmm:

The fact that you couldn't have known beforehand doesn't make it you, not them, in my eyes. Yes, a bunch of hidden comments is a huge deterrent.

Maybe it would help everyone if we posted an article on 'Caution in Giving Constructive Comments'?

I think it's up to debate. Perhaps you provoked them, but perhaps you did nothing to provoke them. I have seen commenters making comments on pieces submitted to ProjectComment. They didn't provoke anyone; the comment was absolutely fine, but they still got attacked. It's not right. Luckily, the commenter reached out to ProjectComment and we supported them all the way. They're still commenting to this day. As for the artist that attacked them, we've kept a wary eye on them. As a group, we support commenters, especially if they have done nothing wrong.

As a group, we are trying to fight against the community regarding that. "I'll be just like most people are most of the time' is what we are trying to fight against. We don't want the majority of people to leave simple comments, because it can turn into a vicious cycle of people giving simple comments only to get simple comments back. Simple comments don't help artists, which is why we're fighting against that as a group. It takes more effort to leave a good comment. It takes little effort in stopping it. Those things that take effort are the things worth fighting for. Nothing good in life is easy. It is precisely because of that that we must keep fighting, even if we are pushing a wall of resistance, even if the majority of the community aren't doing it.

I do agree that it mitigates risk, though. Perhaps the point is to keep commenting on works in the group, and then, to spread the word of the group so that commenters have a main hub of safe commenting.

I have witnessed the results of someone being stalked everywhere. They make threads in the forum asking for help on how to stop it and...short of creating a new account and starting over, there's not much that one can do. :hmm:

Makes sense. I admit myself I don't comment on strangers' art any more. I comment on my watchers, and those in the group, and that's it. It's mostly because of lack of time, but I do factor in strangers' responses too. :nod:
ToddNTheShiningSword Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You ARE forced to see a bad comment in your Inbox. :doh: If it's a Wall of Text, you don't have to read it all, but if there's a bad message in your box, the only way you're going to never see it is if you never look in there, which defeats the point of receiving messages...
Also, regarding the worst that could happen, it's not just about what could happen to you. What about them? Your judgment could bring an artist to tears while doing little damage to you. But... as I've learned, a detailed apology usually fixes that,
and other than me nitpicking that part:above: all of this is some pretty true stuff. Truest stuff I've read about this, I think. 8-)
3wyl Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
In a sense, there's no getting away from first seeing a bad comment, but you can choose whether to respond or not, on both a literal and metaphysical level.

That is true as well. It does depend on how you phrase things. :nod:

Comments are somewhat complicated, at the end of the day!
ToddNTheShiningSword Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Phrasing only goes so far. Some people respond negatively to all critiques from you on a certain subject, or all critiques in general, and for others, the only way you'd know how to phrase it is if you'd known that person for 10 years.
Also, I forgot to add that just because a person doesn't send you an angry reply, doesn't mean you didn't make them angry, so the number of people one offends with ones comments will probably be much higher than it looks, so fear might be a little more justified...
3wyl Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, you are right. Phrasing only goes so far. Some people will be offended no matter how you put it.

There is that to consider as well. However, I don't think a person does themselves justice if they stop commenting out of fear. You will meet people who will take offense - that's a given in life, both outside the internet and on the internet. The important thing is what you do afterwards. Do you let them stop you, or do you carry on doing what you believe in.

I believe that every person deserves one constructive comment. Most people appreciate that. Those that don't can get out of my way, not the other way around.
ToddNTheShiningSword Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I didn't mention this before, but I like the last part of your reply here. That's like a cool-sounding motto plus good quote put together there. 8-)

I'm still going to be wary of giving comments to people I don't know already though. :shrug:
3wyl Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Indeed! :D

That's understandable. :nod:
ComanderSprings Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Comments make the artist feel more noticed :aww:
3wyl Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Indeed! :O
VampiraLady Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I love these series of journals! They're written in a pleasant, good language and serve really good advices.

I bet many people receive comments like: 'great!', 'awesome!', 'cool'! etc. I love such comments, really! But sometimes I'd prefer to read... longer ones :giggle:

by the way, I observed one thing. People like commenting more, when they're excited/touched/bothered by the work. For example, if there's a comic, which have vivid action and each site interrupts in the most interesting point, people usually write a lot of comments and ask 'when's the next page?' 'what will happen?'. This is fantastic, I used to draw such works, and - egoistically I'll say - I love grabbing people's attention. Then I have a feeling, that both I have an attention, and I give my watchers the best to please them.
But, this can be a vivid circle. It's hard to make up always a vivid action in works, controvercial themes, everything based on the highest emotions. Sometimes it's hard to find an inspiration, what interesting to draw (and you still think about grabbing people's attention)... :/ hm.

Do you have any thoughts about this? any advices? I'd love to hear them, you seem to be a wise person :)
ToddNTheShiningSword Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I didn't know YOU were on this Group too? :D
And even though it wasn't directed at me, your Comment was still interesting.
I guess I never had that thing with with some of your comics because I think I must have spent too much time reading through older ones that already had a good number of pages already. :shrug:
It sounds like you have found the good techniques, though! :)
3wyl Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you very much for reading these journals and for commenting! I am glad that you think so. :)

Longer ones definitely provide something richer, I agree. :nod:

Yes, that is a good way to grab people's attention and to keep them engaged! To develop a fan base, in a keep them interested and so on. It is like a cliffhanger in a book, no?

I think what is important is to remember why you are doing art. Is it to get attention? Or is it for yourself? It can be a difficult balance to achieve between the two.

Personally, I think one should always do art for themselves first. If you want attention, that should come second. :nod:

I'm not sure if I really answered your question, but let me know if you have any more and we can discuss the issue? :)
VoadorChama Featured By Owner May 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Amazing; I hope many people read this.
3wyl Featured By Owner May 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You and me both, but it's been a while. :lol:
Bubble66 Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Brilliant article this has inspired me to comment more, and not be afraid.:)
3wyl Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I am glad! :D
Bubble66 Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
AllisonWonderland111 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I really liked this, mostly because I'm one of those people who likes to write out a whole comment, then erase it without submitting it. But I also understand how it feels for someone to comment on my artwork, it feels good knowing that someone liked my work so much that they put time into saying something nice about it ^^. I'm sure that I would have made a lot of people's day a bit brighter if I had submitted at least half of the comments that I had erased.
3wyl Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah, I see. :nod:

Oh, definitely! I do think, most of the time, it's great for both the commenter and the artist when a comment is given. :nod:

So I take it that you are no longer erasing? :)
AllisonWonderland111 Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
well, as of writing that last comment, I've already gotten better at it. But honestly, it was a lot harder to post that than I'd like to admit x3.

It's just because I always embarrassed myself as a kid, so naturally it scares me now to do something that I MIGHT regret later. It's just something that I'll have to work on :)
3wyl Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's pretty cool that you've already gotten better at it there!

I think it'll become easier with time?

I guess the point may be to do things without regret? I don't think it should be something you should regret, and it won't be if you believe in yourself, what you are doing, the good that it does, and more. :nod:
AllisonWonderland111 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I'm sure that it will get easier if I keep doing it ^^

It's interesting that I do other stranger things every day without getting embarrassed, like sing and dance in public to songs on the radio. But doing something as small as writing a comment and hitting 'Send' is hard to do? x3 My shyness doesn't make since xD
3wyl Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, definitely. More practice is key. :la:

Ah, I suppose it is a bit different. :hmm:

But yeah, I can relate to how it doesn't make much sense and all. It is often the case with these things. =/
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